Comments on: Tag, you’re not it http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/ blog designer Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:03:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: nate http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1402 nate Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:20:34 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1402 <strong>I completely agree! </strong> And, I wrote a <a href="http://blog.perfectspace.com/2006/06/03/why-tagging-doesnt-work/" title="Why Tagging Doesn't Work" rel="nofollow">post</a> exactly on this topic, in case you're interested. There are many uses for tagging, but I think most of them aren't being used yet. Tagging will be a fad unless the big boys start making it more useful than what they have so far. I completely agree! And, I wrote a post exactly on this topic, in case you’re interested.

There are many uses for tagging, but I think most of them aren’t being used yet. Tagging will be a fad unless the big boys start making it more useful than what they have so far.

]]> By: Diane http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1401 Diane Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:54:14 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1401 It's like maybe if we think tagging is cool and cutting edge we'll do it, but really it's an admission of a huge hole in the ability of computers to do what human brains can do. Computers can't do much with visual information but that's what humans are best at. So we're left with tons of visual information, "written" in a visual language that isn't capable of being deciphered by a computer. And the best they can come up with so far is to beg us to tag it. Maybe someday computers will be able to read binary information and see the same meaning in it that we do, but we're a long way off. It’s like maybe if we think tagging is cool and cutting edge we’ll do it, but really it’s an admission of a huge hole in the ability of computers to do what human brains can do.

Computers can’t do much with visual information but that’s what humans are best at. So we’re left with tons of visual information, “written” in a visual language that isn’t capable of being deciphered by a computer. And the best they can come up with so far is to beg us to tag it.

Maybe someday computers will be able to read binary information and see the same meaning in it that we do, but we’re a long way off.

]]> By: Rachel http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1400 Rachel Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:18:34 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1400 All good points but who knows if my Flickr account will be around in years to come. A lot of time is spent on future-proofing things which are so temporary. I guess I'm saying that I *think* my memory of when/where I took photos is faster than me tagging them all for all the possible things I might want to remember in the future :) All good points but who knows if my Flickr account will be around in years to come. A lot of time is spent on future-proofing things which are so temporary.

I guess I’m saying that I *think* my memory of when/where I took photos is faster than me tagging them all for all the possible things I might want to remember in the future :)

]]> By: Noah http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1399 Noah Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:38:54 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1399 Sure, tagging is great for the social aspect. But, don't discount it's value for the author. Right now, it might seem like tags are overkill for your few hundred photos that fit easily into a few albums on flickr. But what about those random shots? What about the shots that didn't happen at an event or a location where the event or location wasn't really important enough to create an album to represent it? I think tags won't really be useful to you until years and years from now when you are staring at your flickr page with 5-10 years of photos in front of you. Being able to type in "joe" and pull up all photos that Joe appears in is powerful. That's something an album can't do (unless you add every photo that has Joe in it to a "Joe" album). Of course, you can just run a search in the descriptions. But, how many of your photos have you entered descriptions for? It's faster to enter a few tags that hit all the main parts of the photo, than it is to describe the photo in a sentence/paragraph structure. Also, tagging becomes even more powerful when you start combining tags in your search. I can pull up all photos that have the tag "joe" and "lauren" which will only show me photos where those two are together. Or "joe" and "bar", or "joe" and "bar" and "me" ... these are things that you'll never be creating albums for. Sure, tagging is great for the social aspect. But, don’t discount it’s value for the author. Right now, it might seem like tags are overkill for your few hundred photos that fit easily into a few albums on flickr. But what about those random shots? What about the shots that didn’t happen at an event or a location where the event or location wasn’t really important enough to create an album to represent it?

I think tags won’t really be useful to you until years and years from now when you are staring at your flickr page with 5-10 years of photos in front of you. Being able to type in “joe” and pull up all photos that Joe appears in is powerful. That’s something an album can’t do (unless you add every photo that has Joe in it to a “Joe” album).

Of course, you can just run a search in the descriptions. But, how many of your photos have you entered descriptions for? It’s faster to enter a few tags that hit all the main parts of the photo, than it is to describe the photo in a sentence/paragraph structure.

Also, tagging becomes even more powerful when you start combining tags in your search. I can pull up all photos that have the tag “joe” and “lauren” which will only show me photos where those two are together. Or “joe” and “bar”, or “joe” and “bar” and “me” … these are things that you’ll never be creating albums for.

]]> By: drazin http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1395 drazin Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:37:08 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1395 i think you are missing the point of tagging. its not mainly for your own organization but its for the sharing aspect. you click on your tag "Peru" and you get a list of all the "Peru" pictures that other people have taged their pictures with. its about sharing and easily sorting TONS of pictures from everyone. it may not be ultra valuable to your own pictures...but on the grand level its great. i think you are missing the point of tagging. its not mainly for your own organization but its for the sharing aspect. you click on your tag “Peru” and you get a list of all the “Peru” pictures that other people have taged their pictures with. its about sharing and easily sorting TONS of pictures from everyone. it may not be ultra valuable to your own pictures…but on the grand level its great.

]]> By: John Labriola http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1398 John Labriola Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:21:57 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1398 Stop the presses, tagging is not kewl? I agree, the premise of tagging is for sharing information. For me it falls into the whole social aspect of this Web 2.0 thing. If I think about it, I categorize things for my personal usage, and tag what I want to share... Stop the presses, tagging is not kewl? I agree, the premise of tagging is for sharing information. For me it falls into the whole social aspect of this Web 2.0 thing. If I think about it, I categorize things for my personal usage, and tag what I want to share…

]]> By: Rachel http://www.cre8d-design.com/2006/08/tag-youre-not-it/comment-page-1/#comment-1397 Rachel Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:49:25 +0000 http://www.cre8d-design.com/wordpress/2006/08/09/tag-youre-not-it/#comment-1397 That's true. Very few applications with tagging have advantages for me where I *want* people to find my stuff. I just can't think of Web 2.0 apps where I want to tag. That’s true. Very few applications with tagging have advantages for me where I *want* people to find my stuff. I just can’t think of Web 2.0 apps where I want to tag.

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